[BBF Standards] Fwd: new assembly standard proposal
Drew Endy
endy at MIT.EDU
Wed Jul 9 00:43:53 EDT 2008
(Forwarding a great reply from Chris Anderson at Berkeley to the full
standards list; for everybody's consideration and additional
discussion).
> Hey Tom,
>
> That's an interesting proposal, and I do think we are still in an
> era in which exploring different assembly schemes is prudent, and
> possibly necessary.
>
> First of all, there is the question of whether hybrid enzyme
> standards like Raik's make more or less sense than single pair
> standards. My impression is that the hybrid strategy only exists to
> avoid re-making the collection of parts but serves no specific
> function beyond that. There aren't yet enough basic parts in
> existence that moving them to a new standard would be a substantial
> effort. Therefore this strikes me as a weak motivator, and your
> proposal of trying a new standard that would be fundamentally
> incompatible with BBa suggests to me you see it the same way.
> Nevertheless, the EcoRI-AgeI-part-NgoMIV-PstI could be a standard,
> and I'll pretend for the sake of argument that this is what Raik
> proposed (and the existing parts would of course remain compatible
> with such a standard).
>
> In evaluating these things, it seems there are two distinct criteria
> categories to consider. First is the acceptability of the scar
> sequence, and the second is the subtle effects of the enzymes on
> assembly chemistry.
>
> In terms of broad acceptance outside of iGEM, I think there will
> always be holdouts on the idempotent standard assembly concept as
> long as the scar is not scarless. I have never seen a chemistry
> providing a scarless solution to this that would be robust enough to
> serve as the backbone of the long-term assembly solution (not for a
> lack of looking, and kudos to Austin Che for trying!) I think
> ultimately we can get there, but it will require some pretty
> difficult protein engineering. In the meantime, we have a variety
> of 6 bp scar options that give reasonable scars for protein fusions--
> the Silver lab standard, BglII/BamHI, AgeI/NgoMIV, and SpeI/AvrII
> (and there may be other reasonable ones). The peptides they encode
> all seem arguably reasonable to me, so this does not seem to be a
> viable criterion for distinguishing the standards.
>
> The second criterion is the ease of assembly (including side
> reactions and frequent complications). In practice this is very
> hard to evaluate as you must take into account the particular
> reaction scheme (prefix/suffix insertions, 3ab method, 1-2-3 method,
> one-pot method, dbbs (an ipcr scheme), the Goler PCR scheme, etc.)
> and the enzymes as they perform in that scheme. The criteria you
> fault BglII/BamHI for--heat insensitivity and proliferation of
> genome fragments--both strike me as criteria predicated on a 3ab
> assembly scheme. I would agree with you that BBb enzymes perform
> poorly in 3ab reactions. However, the 1-2-3, one-pot, and pcr-based
> schemes of BBb do not involve heat killing or 3-part ligations. In
> the case of the 1-2-3 and one-pot methods, the reactions involve
> site-specific methylation and background subtraction with the
> assembly enzymes. So, the dominant issues are the performance of
> the cognate methyltransferases expressed from the coli genome and
> the overall efficiency of cutting-to-completion by the enzymes. It
> is on these criteria that BglII/BamHI stands out. I've never used
> NgoMIV, but I have worked with AvrII, AgeI, and of course SpeI and
> XbaI. The reactivity of AvrII and SpeI are definitely better than
> AgeI and XbaI.
>
> One also has to evaluate these standards for the ease of assembly
> for both the short term in the pre-automation era, their perfomance
> in the soon-to-come automation-with-reagents era, the reagent-free
> assembly era, the scarless era, and potentially a later phage-based
> or cell-free era. How well, for example, does NgoMIV express and
> perform in an in vitro transcription/translation mixture? It may
> seem premature to consider such things now, but this is the
> inevitable path of development for idempotent assembly schemes and
> these issues will ultimately determine what assembly chemistries
> remain in use 5 years from now.
>
> One also must consider the course of development of oligonucleotide-
> based total synthesis that evolves in parallel to assembly schemes
> (and I won't even get into the implications of SLIC derivative
> methods). If something dramatic happens in the market in the next 3
> years bringing the price down two orders of magnitude, then this is
> all a big waste of brain energy. If the total synthesis cost comes
> down at least to the point where pcr-based cloning of basic parts is
> impractical relative to total synthesis, then complications such as
> the frequency of internal restriction sites are irrelevant. Of
> course, that day may also never happen and restriction site
> frequency may still be a concern 10 years from now.
>
> ...so, I think this is all pretty complicated. I think about it a
> great deal, and my guestimations of the future lead me to BglII/
> BamHI. However, it is all sufficiently complicated that the
> criteria that would lead away from BBb may be more relevant than my
> guestimations suggest, and I therefore think that having "felt out"
> a variety of alternative assembly chemistries is of great value.
> They help guarantee that we avoid the worst case scenario--that we
> lock ourselves into the status quo and find ourselves at the same
> place we are now 5 years out.
> -Chris
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Tom Knight <tk at csail.mit.edu> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> J. Christopher Anderson, Ph.D.
> Assistant Professor
> Department of Bioengineering
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>
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